tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619335672953217109.post328083462867379138..comments2023-07-05T08:50:36.355-07:00Comments on Flash of Moonfire: Dungeon Finder and Dual SpecsHanahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12020803566446071455noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619335672953217109.post-66680091815782619942010-01-13T11:13:56.108-08:002010-01-13T11:13:56.108-08:00@GK - In retrospect I probably would have traded i...@GK - In retrospect I probably would have traded it to him (or said something right off the bat), but in the heat of the moment I was terribly confused.<br /><br />As I'd mentioned, I'd gotten used to the "new standard" of everyone just rolling on whatever dropped.<br /><br />Ex: H FoS drops a really nice phys dps trinket. Every time I've seen it drop, the melee, the hunters, <i>and the tanks</i> have rolled on it. No one has ever batted an eye or told the tank to stay away from their dps trinket.<br /><br />I think the Dungeon Finder is making cultural expectations clash and that's annoying, because what one group expects is not necessarily the same as what the next group expects.Hanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12020803566446071455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619335672953217109.post-73709748607713097392010-01-13T11:05:37.846-08:002010-01-13T11:05:37.846-08:00@Klep - Keeva's got it exactly. It's not ...@Klep - Keeva's got it exactly. It's not that there are too many tanks overall, just too many that specifically want to run normal ToC. It takes about 10-15 minutes to pop on Shadowburn when queued as tank/dps. It's a shocking thing to experience as a tank, heh.<br /><br />For non-heroics (limited pool of people for the Dungeon Finder to choose from) it happens on occasion. I queued for Shadow Labs (!) as tank/dps while leveling my feral and was also assigned dps.<br /><br />@crankyhealer - I mostly felt bad because if this had been a pre-crossrealm 5-man I would have made my terms clear (I'm coming to roll on the Heart) before we set foot in the instance. But with the Dungeon Finder your role is chosen for you and everyone just starts running with little to no discussion as soon as all five people pop in.Hanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12020803566446071455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619335672953217109.post-47942750677525053552010-01-13T11:02:48.678-08:002010-01-13T11:02:48.678-08:00As with most things, communication is key. If I wa...As with most things, communication is key. If I want to roll on something specific for my offspec (in this case the spec you are not running the dungeon in), I announce it at the start, and the group can decide what to do. <br /><br />If a piece drops, and it's an upgrade for my off spec, I will usually wait to see if the tank/healer rolls need, and if he doesn't then I will say it's for my offspec to the party. <br /><br />But just rolling on gear that you want in the spec you aren't in is unfair and greedy and I would have traded the trink to the guy who did the work of tanking. That's just me.GKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00593892537640975662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619335672953217109.post-26053458706313387142010-01-13T07:20:21.808-08:002010-01-13T07:20:21.808-08:00There are just so many unknowns in a PuG. When th...There are just so many unknowns in a PuG. When the Orca spear dropped, I passed to the ret-pally who had rolled need. I said to him "it's your main spec, and feral is my off-spec." Then he did something that will never happen again - he said "eh, this is an alt, take the spear, the such-and-such axe from POS is better for pallies anyway." And he traded me the spear.<br /><br />You have no idea whether this person is a tank main-spec, or if it's alt #5... who is to say who is more deserving of the item?<br /><br />I might add that this is a regular, not a heroic, so he could queue for it until the end of time, you didn't waste his lockout.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619335672953217109.post-5569403842878384662010-01-12T18:16:14.340-08:002010-01-12T18:16:14.340-08:00It's not that there's a glut of tanks over...It's not that there's a glut of tanks overall, it's that lots of tanks specifically queue for normal TOC to try to get that trinket. <br /><br />So, unlike random heroics where tanks get instant invites, tanks have to wait in line to get into normal TOC.Keevahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15076646779679387588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619335672953217109.post-12127622271662482722010-01-12T17:04:43.852-08:002010-01-12T17:04:43.852-08:00But on the actual topic at hand, I don't think...But on the actual topic at hand, I don't think it's bad to roll on secondary spec loot. I've rolled on DPS loot, DPS have rolled on tank loot. My situation is a little biased in that no DPS have rolled on tank loot that I've wanted, and the times I rolled on DPS loot there either were none who needed it, or in one case the DPS won the roll but actually traded the item to me.<br /><br />So once again, I'm in a bubble.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619335672953217109.post-5673584661050546552010-01-12T17:02:04.816-08:002010-01-12T17:02:04.816-08:00I hate to be "that person", but I have t...I hate to be "that person", but I have to call "screenshots or it didn't happen" on you queuing as a tank and getting a DPS spot or on there being a "glut of tanks". I'm not saying you're lying, but I just can't imagine a server with too many tanks.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.com